Operation Theatre and Angioplasty Suite: What is the difference?

Wonder no more why this government is not widely loved by all. Actually, it’s those bureacracts or civil servants that need to be taken to task. I guess if they abide solidly to the rule book instead of using their initiative or be flexible rather than taking unncessary risks by using their common sense, nothing will ever happen to their “iron bowl!”. Only that the citizens will hate the government. But that doesn’t bother those civil servants at all. This is a sorry state of affairs.

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16 Responses to Operation Theatre and Angioplasty Suite: What is the difference?

  1. melbyfool says:

    I am a nurse. I work in such angiogram/angioplasty suites. The procedure should have been done in an angioplasty suite, unless they wanted to do grafting – then it would be appropriate for the procedure to be done in an operating theatre.

  2. melbyfool says:

    This is the same for the heart; if they want to unblock the coronary arteries with balloons and arteries the procedure will be done in a similar suite. An operating theatre would be appropriate if they want to do a bypass graft.

    I’m just wondering if someone cocked up while booking the theatre/suites. Technically it is alright to do such procedures in an operating procedure, but it’s an overkill and a waste of resources. Just like booking a 500 seat lecture theatre when you should be booking a small classroom if you only have 5 students.

    • Yes. I see your point. Like what you say it shld not be “overkill”. The crux of the matter is you can claim from your CPF in an operating theatre but can’t in a suit. That’s the unhappiness is all about. Using your hard-earned money to pay for such expensive medical costs and yet the govt telling you cannot cuz it’s done in a suit. You see the point here?

  3. melbyfool says:

    I totally do see your point and I’m surprised.

    I am not currently working in Singapore, but when I was 5 years ago, I was told by my patients that they were using their CPF to pay for the procedures (in the suites). Granted they might have to pay up to $5000 for a 10-20K procedure (depends on the stents used), but the rest was paid by CPF (Medisave). Seems like that has changed??

    Or maybe it hasn’t changed, just that I got my facts wrong, I don’t know. I wasn’t that interested in healthcare financing years ago and might have missed some other details.

    But yes, the point remains that where the procedure was done should not be a factor in whether you can use your Medisave or not.

    • Yes. Well said! You see the rules of the game or “goal posts” keep shifting on their whim and fancy so it becomes a big mess of confusion. Can you blame the citizens let alone even a medical professional like your good self seems to be at a loss?
      I brought it to the Minister’s attention on why we need to pay for “Admin charges” when we use our own CPF to pay for own medical fees?
      You see the mindset of this govt must change. They just can’t sleep or eat if they do not charge you something for everything and they always say everything must be based on market prices! If you ppl to love you, not everything must be done in that kind of mindset. The Singapore pink NRIC doesn’t worth anything?
      Don’t forget that we are 3rd or 4th richest country in the world yet we have a govt so reluctant to let us use our own CPF to pay for our own medical needs. Who wants to go to a hospital for operation if given a choice? In some rich small Arab countries, the govt even pay everything for its citizens to go abroad eg to Singapore for medical operation costs. Of course, we dont expect this govt to do it. We just hope that they don’t control our CPF for life threatening ops!
      Do you see my fair stmt that this govt is not loved by the ppl? It is issue such as in this example and many other issues combine together leading to so much unhappiness and dissatisfaction with this govt.
      If the govt’s mindset doesn’t change, they will contd to lose more support from the public. The ppl will feel that this govt is no longer relevant to their well being and so disenchanted with them. That’s the natural course of events if they still get stuck in their ivory towers. Those top bureacracts play a part too. Whatever they do will affect the govt.

      • melbyfool says:

        Where I am currently working, citizens get free hospital care/treatments and if they need rest home placements, that is highly subsidized as well if they don’t have much assets. People can have healthcare workers visiting them at home to help them with showering or housework if they have been assessed as not able to do those things.

        All that for a health expenditure of just 1.5 times more than Singapore’s, for a population that is slightly less than Singapore’s. Singapore is planning to spend much more on defence than on healthcare in the next 5-10 years.

        Surely that tells you something?

        I can feel your frustrations in your writing. But surely you know deep down in your heart that things wouldn’t change. People still have food to eat. Everyone is waiting for the next elections in 2016, but so what if the % drops to 55% or even 51%? As long as the GRC system is in place the reining Government will continue to rule. So what if they lose another GRC? They still have majority in Parliament. One election lose one GRC, how long will that take?

        Eventually, it boils down to this: How many 5 years do you have? Your readers may think they have plenty, but as a nurse let me tell you this: Life is too short, and there are no guarantees that you’ll be alive this time next week. Your colleague who died of a heart attack is the best example.

        • witnessed says:

          Just received news that an ex-colleague had died of heart attack tis morning. The deceased was said to have suddenly became frail and sickly for about a year. A marshal art exponent that superficially looked fit like a young lion, all who knew him were surprised at his change in health condition. He was a bubbly guy.

          In a way, he was damn lucky to be working with a well established listed company, he was entitled and bought some of the Employer’s listed shares and made some money. When his health condition deteriorated, he was warded in First Class Ward and all medical expenses were paid for by the Company.

          As a senior citizen, me had disclosed many times in Blogoland that in the 70s and before, healthcare in Singapore was no different from the Description by Melbyfool in her above-Mentioned Comment. Especially, in the case of new birth. In those day, there were maternity clinics in almost every district in Singapore. Each time a lady visited them to report conception, midwife nurses would follow-up with home visits, no matter where she stayed including outlying islands like Sentosa, Brani, Bukom, Tekong, Ubin and others, to ensure that the mothers to be and the foetuses were developing well. When the babies were born, the nurses would made homecalls to teach the mothers how to feed and bathe their newly born and to monitor the mothers’ health.

          The new mothers could visit the maternity clinics that SPECIALLY ONLY CATERED TO THEM, when they or their babies were not well. Charges for the home visits and to the Maternity Clinics were a nominal $1.00 inclusive of any medication.

          Hospital and Government Clinic charges were similarly nominal for stay and treatment. Those were the good old days during the British Rule and soon after them, healthcare cost became one of the GREATEST PROBLEM of most Singaporeans.

          patriot.

          • melbyfool says:

            I am a guy. Cheers!

          • Lohcifer says:

            Patriot
            Those days you described were days when healthcare awareness was rather inadequate, infant mortality rates were high, health in general for most was poor, nutrition level low and people were not that educated hence the (then British government) took the pains to make house visits, etc a part of the system. Today people are more aware, have more choices and due to high costs, are being brainwashed to “self-help” ie to look after themselves, etc. Even if those practices persist, I doubt if today’s young mothers appreciate house visits or paying a pittance for maternity care – most are more than willing to splurge thinking that the more they pay the better of everything they’ll get. Government sits back on this one and can only feel contented.

          • Expensive price says:

            If we were serious about longevity, good health and a productive golden years experience for our retirees – we could offer free dental screening for everyone – there is increasing evidence that dental health (dental caries) is closely correlated to heart and vascular diseases. Bacteria n other microbes from a “foul” mouth will find their way into your vascular (blood) system – depending on where they lodge, disease will follow. Classic is ulcers caused by Helicobacter pylori. Actually there is an unholy alliance between healthcare professionals, drug companies and diagnostic equipment manufacturers. In the ulcer situation, GSK for close to 25 years made tried to discredit the work of 2005 Nobel prize winners Marshall and Warren at a “unrecognized” hospital in Perth, Australia. The cure for disinfecting your get is probably abt $3-00 whilst taking H2 antihistamine antagonists racked in over $10 billion a year for Big Pharma since the 1970’s until recently. Some cancer specialist around town also offerring 50% improvement in survival rates (from 3months to 6months) – except for a small amount of cancers, the rest (75%) do not respond to medical quakery. Have seen many families chase this impossible Hope encouraged by these amoral professionals.

            Fact is healthcare demands are not made by the consultants and not the patient. Trusting your doctor is very much like trusting your Bankers for investment expertise, Lawyer for legal or any “professionals,” – Caveat Emptor – buyer beware – you carry ultimate consequences for bad choices made on your behalf.

  4. witnessed says:

    My apology to MR Melbyfool. Quite attracted to the Place You are in. My spouse is a senior staff nurse and me wanted her to work in Brunei 3 decades ago, however, she told me there was/is no better place than Sin. So, the Family remains in Sin and mostly work in Healthcare.

    patriot

  5. Casey Lau says:

    Seems like they are robbing the poor to feed the rich. This is ridiculous thing happening in a first world country.
    What a shame! Shamefully shameless bunch of highway robbers!

  6. witnessed says:

    Good Morning Lohcifer:

    may have to agree with You to some extent. Now that most of our ladies are educated, most have found that they need not depend on anyone else to survive. Interestingly, me had been looking at drivers of branded cars and found many of them are female. When it comes to branded goods, cosmestics and beauty related products and services, they are almost exclusively catering to the ladies. So, me surmises that most hardly have the time to take care of baby, they spend more time with their bosses than their hubbies. Those in the lower pay services and production industries are usually on more than 10 hours work six to seven days a week leaving them hardly anytime to rest and recreate.

    With no time for themselves, where and when can our ladyfolks find time to ‘phat toh'(dating), have the energy and mood to make love?? For the very highly educated and holding good paying jobs, how many of them have eyes for any man.

    Me will not like to write too long here as it wont end even with 20 pages, just like to conclude that in my view; be it ladies or men, Singaporeans have lost much of their animal instinct; we are living in a ‘artificialized’ society with materialism as the core pursuit of living. It does not augur well for anybody and I AM OF THE OPINION THAT FOLDING UP IS INEVITABLE, it just a question of when..

    I like to say here that my family gives me the greatest joy and my grandchildren provide the most wonderful moments I ever experienced.

    patriot

    • Lohcifer says:

      Patriot
      Thanks for responding. I became a grandpa just over 3 months ago and absolutely agree with you – there is no greater joy!

  7. witnessed says:

    Me likes to say here that in my village where i am born in 1951, there was
    hardly any infant death due to medical problem. There were accidental death
    of drowning and suicide cases of adults due to domestic problems.
    In the older days, most women would opt for suicide instead of divorce as they
    considered
    divorce as a big shame to themselves and their families.

    Now, some are divorced multiple times and will not hesitate to go for another.

    patriot

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